
Today at FIYAH, we’re talking with Nisi Shawl a bit about her work in the upcoming anthology, MOTHER OF INVENTION. This is a heavyweight anthology people need to look out. Among the final list of contributors to Mother of Invention are award-winning science fiction and fantasy writers from around the world, including New York Times bestselling and multi Hugo award-winning author SEANAN MCGUIRE; Hugo award-winning JOHN CHU;  and Shirley Jackson award-winning Australian horror writer KAARON WARREN.Â
FIYAH: What drew you to being part of this anthology?
NISI: The premise of gender-conscious stories about artificial intelligence seemed so smart to me that I was immediately attracted to it as a unifying theme. And Iâd had previous good experiences with the editors and publisher (both as a contributor and as a reader), which made me eager to work with them on this.
FIYAH: Was this story made especially for this anthology or was it one you had been chewing on for a while?
NISI: I have been working on a short story series I call Making Amends for several years, and AI is integral to much of it. Briefly describing the creation of the main AI character in another story got me ready to write about that creation in more detailâbut I donât think you could call that âchewing onâ the idea. It was not that deliberate. Not that focused.
FIYAH: Your story has an A.I. giving âbirthâ. How did you reckon with how to describe that in terms that would make sense for a machine and still be digestible to readers?
NISI: In âThe Mighty Phinâ (originally published in the anthology Cyberworld and republished by Tor.com), the AI named Dr. Ops tells a âclientâ the method of his creation, so that was established before I began writing âLiving Proof.â This method is one that makes sense on an abstract level, so you can conceive of any sort of birth in those termsâhuman or otherwise.
At the same time, I had the âmotherâ AI, Westhem, do what she called âmetaphorizingâ of some of her more arcane and nonphysical functions, which I am hoping will help readers accept themâmaybe even enjoy them?
FIYAH: Is the future you posited in this story somewhere you think weâre headed? If so, why?
NISI: What a tricky question! Of course you can tell by the fact that I wrote this story that I think we may be headed to the future where it plays out. I rather hope not, though.
When I was a teen, my mother told me that sheâd been around long enough to distrust trends toward more liberal attitudes, laws, and practices. She likened society to a clockâs pendulum, and said it would swing away from those 1960s and 70s liberalisms with time. Now Iâm much older than she was when she broke down the cyclical nature of so-called progress to me. And though I began writing the stories in this series during a liberal tick, damn if we arenât now in a moment of tock.
What Iâm trying to do in the Making Amends series overall, though, is show that though the pendulum swings backward, the hands on the clockâs face move forward. In other words, that changes for the better happen independent of societyâs trends and tendencies.
FIYAH: Have you had a chance to read the other stories in the anthology? Any favorites in the ones you have read?
NISI: I havenât read any of the stories yet. But I adore K. Tempest Bradfordâs essay!
FIYAH: So whatâs next for Nisi? Any other anthologies youâre going to be in? Any projects you want readers to look out for?
NISI: So much going on at the moment! Iâm into the last few days of revising Speculation, a childrenâs historical fantasy which my editor Cheryl Klein at Lee and Low describes as âEdward Eager retells Tony Morrisonâs Beloved.â  Iâm finalizing bios and contracts for an anthology Iâm editing for Solaris Books called New Suns: Original Speculative Fiction by People of Color, and itâs enormously exciting! I can hardly wait for people to read itânew stories by Steven Barnes, Silvia Moreno-Garcia, Anil Menon, E. Lily Yu, Tobias Buckellâyouâll see!
And Iâm writing a sequel to Everfair. My working title is Kinning, and itâs focused on Tink, Bee-Lung, Princess Mwadi, and Prince Ilunga. Aircanoes and anarchy; mycorrhizal networks; radios and royalty. They all work together! Iâll turn that in next October.
I have a story coming out in Uncanny Magazineâs special Disabled People Destroy Science Fiction. Itâs called âThe Things I Miss the Most.â Another called âShe Toreâ is due out soon in an anthology titled Hath No Fury. And thereâs a third called âConversion Therapy,â a sequel to âStreet Wormâ and âQueen of Dirt,â about a âvisionerâ named Brit Williams who also appears in a novel Iâm serializing to my Patreon supporters. That new story is scheduled for a Nisi Shawl primer published by Dark Moon Books (http://www.darkmoonbooks.com/Primer_3.html), probably in October.